doc: update irc channels to point to #node.js and #node-dev

[nelsonpecora]

Minor typo fix.

[ChALkeR]

While you are at it: https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/v4.0.0/doc/node.1#L774

[nelsonpecora]

Didn't even see that one! I'll update it.

[nelsonpecora]

Searched through and found another irc channel reference in CONTRIBUTING.md. I think that's all of them.

[Fishrock123]

Yes and no. We should point to both. Maybe.

#io.js is still the channel we use for actual development, and it will continue to be. It will probably be renamed at some point.

[evanlucas]

Yea, I do like having the #io.js channel around still

[Fishrock123]

Basically, #node.js is great for questions, but we need a development channel that isn't flooded. :S

Currently #io.js is that. I'll take care of doing a rename soon(tm).

[jbergstroem]

+1 to #node.js-dev or similar

[jbergstroem]

While at it, does anyone keep track of who has ownership flags of these channels? It'd be good to make sure that they are people active on irc and is part of the nodejs foundation and or tc and or wg.

[Fishrock123]

I'm not sure who owns #node.js, but I own #io.js and #node-dev.

[ChALkeR]

@Fishrock123 I think that would be @isaacs.
@jbergstroem Try /msg chanserv access #Node.js list (and the same for #io.js and #node-dev channels) =).

[nelsonpecora]

Ah, these are all good points. I'd say 👍 to something like #node.js-dev (or #node-dev) as well.

Maybe point to #node.js in the root readme, then #node-dev in the contributing section (and in dev documentation)?

[jbergstroem]

@Fishrock123 could you perhaps have a chat to @isaacs and see if you can get a owner flag? I'm an old IRC beard as well but probably not active enough to fulfil the duties required.

[Fishrock123]

@jbergstroem I see no point in altering #node.js as it is, for the most part. I guess I can ask one of the mods so I can get access to the topic and stuff.

[silverwind]

So about this PR. Maybe both should be listed?

[jasnell]

At this point, it's likely just to leave the IRC channels alone as they are. -1 to this change.

[MylesBorins]

@jasnell if we are going to keep the dev channel as io.js perhaps we can make reference to both #node.js and #io.js and explain the difference as to avoid confusion

[jasnell]

@thealphanerd 👍

[jbergstroem]

How about creating something like #node-dev and redirect #io.js there?

[evanlucas]

#node-dev actually already exists, it just isn't really used.

[nelsonpecora]

Per @jasnell and the conversation in this ticket, it seems like the channels are ok as they are. Closing this. 😃

[ChALkeR]

@evanlucas

#node-dev actually already exists, it just isn't really used.

That's historic, a redirect from #io.js to #node-dev would solve that.

@jasnell

At this point, it's likely just to leave the IRC channels alone as they are. -1 to this change.

The current channel names confuse newcomers.

[jasnell]

Yes, I agree but I think it's likely to be more confusing to change them... but that's just my personal opinion

[ChALkeR]

@jasnell How would it, if #io.js would automatically redirect everyone to #node-dev?

[jasnell]

@ChALkeR ... does freenode support channel redirection? I know some IRC servers do but I'm not familiar enough with freenode. If so, is redirection transparent to the user and is there a timelimit for the redirection being active (I believe some servers use a 60 or 90 day timeout)

[MylesBorins]

I just asked in #freenode and they do indeed support it

i was directed to this link and told to look at channel mode: +f

"You need to be opped up in both channels when applying it or the target channel needs to be +F"

[jasnell]

Ok. So long as the redirection can be done seamlessly with minimal impact to users, I have no objection :-)

[jbergstroem]

@mikeal I'd argue the same if we manually had to shuffle people over, but since freenode supports redirects it should be a breeze. I like the fact that #node-dev is more descriptive than #io.js in terms of explaining the intended topic. #io.js is in a sense a split path between all users of io.js and devs.

[nelsonpecora]

Rebased to fix a merge conflict, then changed CONTRIBUTING.md to point to #node-dev (Though the readme and cli/repl info both point to the more general #node.js channel).

[Fishrock123]

@yoshokatana Could you change it to that it links to both? #Node.js should be for general help, Node.js questions, etc, and #node-dev is for the development of node core specifically.

[nelsonpecora]

Yup! @Fishrock123 should both channels also be listed in the readme and repl? It might be useful.

[MylesBorins]

@Fishrock123 are we moving forward with this?

[Fishrock123]

@thealphanerd Yes. Later today. There has been a notice in IRC since friday. I need to figure out with @piscisaureus if the IRC log bot will actually work with this though.

[Fishrock123]

Done. #io.js is now +if (forward joins to #node-dev, invite only to get into the actual channel).

[Fishrock123]

LGTM

[Fishrock123]

Landed in 3b30613 @yoshokatana Thanks for the patience!

[nelsonpecora]

😄