gh-121103: Put free-threaded libraries in `lib/python3.14t`#121293

colesbury · 2024-07-02T20:22:16Z

On POSIX systems, excluding macOS framework installs, the lib directory for the free-threaded build now includes a "t" suffix to avoid conflicts with a co-located default build installation.

Issue: Free-threaded libraries should be in lib/python3.14t (configure) #121103

On POSIX systems, excluding macOS framework installs, the lib directory for the free-threaded build now includes a "t" suffix to avoid conflicts with a co-located default build installation.

colesbury · 2024-07-02T20:43:48Z

pip, uv, venv, setuptools, seem to work, but I don't entirely know what I'm doing, so I'd appreciate a thorough review.

This also fixes the test_sysconfig failure on Windows.

hroncok · 2024-07-03T09:39:43Z

Does this mean that all of the pure Python standard library files would need to be installed in lib/python3.14t
as well? I.e. when I have both the "normal" and the freethreaded Python installed, do I need all the standard library modules twice?

encukou · 2024-07-03T12:32:12Z

I don't have very deep knowledge in this area, so I can't easily do a thorough review :(
I'd trust @FFY00 and @hroncok's reviews if they can contribute their time for it.

erlend-aasland · 2024-07-03T12:41:05Z

Does this mean that all of the pure Python standard library files would need to be installed in lib/python3.14t as well? I.e. when I have both the "normal" and the freethreaded Python installed, do I need all the standard library modules twice?

As far as I can tell, from a quick look at this PR: yes.

hroncok · 2024-07-03T13:01:19Z

As far as I can tell, from a quick look at this PR: yes.

I thought so.

The real question is: Is this the outcome we anticipated?

If not, I suggest keeping the stdlib and platstdlib values intact.

colesbury · 2024-07-03T14:41:32Z

Yes, that was the intention. The goal is to separate the installation. We run into a lot of potential problems if we have partially overlapping stdlib files.

erlend-aasland · 2024-07-03T16:26:16Z

Yes, that was the intention. The goal is to separate the installation. We run into a lot of potential problems if we have partially overlapping stdlib files.

FTR, I totally agree with this.

colesbury · 2024-07-03T16:31:23Z

To expand on my previous comment: if we have kept a common stdlib and platstdlib, the Python files would be shared, but the .so files would not. So I'd be concerned that if someone installed, e.g. 3.13.0 default and 3.13.8 free-threaded to the same prefix, then the .py files and native .so libraries might not match. Keeping things separate in lib/python3.13t vs. lib/python3.13 avoids this problem.

colesbury · 2024-07-10T15:05:42Z

I plan to merge this tomorrow if there are no objections

ned-deily

Other than the nit comment, +1. This looks like it does what it promises. We still have a bit more to do before a free-threaded build can be installed to the same prefix as a non-free-threaded build without conflicts, primarily due to duplicate symlinked names in the bin and lib/pkgconfig directories. But this isn't really a new problem as there are similar conflicts when sharing with a debug build prior to this PR. I'd say let's merge this PR now and we can follow up in another PR for which I want to do some more investigation.

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miss-islington-app · 2024-07-11T20:21:40Z

Thanks @colesbury for the PR 🌮🎉.. I'm working now to backport this PR to: 3.13.
🐍🍒⛏🤖

…thonGH-121293) On POSIX systems, excluding macOS framework installs, the lib directory for the free-threaded build now includes a "t" suffix to avoid conflicts with a co-located default build installation. (cherry picked from commit e8c91d9) Co-authored-by: Sam Gross <[email protected]>

bedevere-app · 2024-07-11T20:21:52Z

GH-121631 is a backport of this pull request to the 3.13 branch.

…H-121293) (#121631) On POSIX systems, excluding macOS framework installs, the lib directory for the free-threaded build now includes a "t" suffix to avoid conflicts with a co-located default build installation. (cherry picked from commit e8c91d9) Co-authored-by: Sam Gross <[email protected]>

…thon#121293) On POSIX systems, excluding macOS framework installs, the lib directory for the free-threaded build now includes a "t" suffix to avoid conflicts with a co-located default build installation.

AlexWaygood · 2024-08-06T11:16:03Z

Lib/site.py

+ if hasattr(sys, 'abiflags') and 't' in sys.abiflags:
+ abi_thread = 't'
+ else:
+ abi_thread = ''
 if os.sep == '/':
 libdirs = [sys.platlibdir]
 if sys.platlibdir != "lib":
 libdirs.append("lib")

 for libdir in libdirs:
 path = os.path.join(prefix, libdir,
- f"{implementation}{ver[0]}.{ver[1]}",
+ f"{implementation}{ver[0]}.{ver[1]}{abi_thread}",


@colesbury -- would you be able to update the docs for the site module to reflect these changes to how Python finds the site-packages directory?
(The context is I'm currently working on reimplementing Python's logic here for Astral's work-in-progress type checker. I was reading through the site.py source code, and it surprised me to find logic here that wasn't documented!)

Thanks for the pointer. I put up a PR to update the docs: #122737

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On POSIX systems, excluding macOS framework installs, the lib directory for the free-threaded build now includes a "t" suffix to avoid conflicts with a co-located default build installation.

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Having two identical executables for free-threaded version is misleading pyenv/pyenv#3015
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