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Replaces PyModule_Create() with PyModuleDef_Init().

Static types still remain unchanged in the doc.


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cc @erlend-aasland@encukou Just in case you're interested.

@AA-TurnerAA-Turner changed the title gh-134160: Docs: Ensure single-phase init is no longer used in examplesgh-134160: Use multi-phase init in documentation examplesMay 21, 2025
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static PyModuleDef_Slot emb_module_slots[] ={
{Py_mod_multiple_interpreters, Py_MOD_PER_INTERPRETER_GIL_SUPPORTED},
{Py_mod_gil, Py_MOD_GIL_NOT_USED},
{0, NULL}
};
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Having done trial conversions of NumPy to multi-phase, I think we should include the relevant PY_VERSION_HEX checks. Both Py_mod_multiple_interpreters and Py_mod_gil were added very recently.

If we agree on adding these checks, we should add them for all relevant PyModuleDef_Slot structs. It is verbose, but aids in the copy-and-paste scenario.

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static PyModuleDef_Slot emb_module_slots[] ={
{Py_mod_multiple_interpreters, Py_MOD_PER_INTERPRETER_GIL_SUPPORTED},
{Py_mod_gil, Py_MOD_GIL_NOT_USED},
{0, NULL}
};
static PyModuleDef_Slot emb_module_slots[] ={
#if PY_VERSION_HEX >= 0x030C00F0 // Python 3.12+
// signal that this module can be imported in isolated subinterpreters
{Py_mod_multiple_interpreters, Py_MOD_PER_INTERPRETER_GIL_SUPPORTED},
#endif
#if PY_VERSION_HEX >= 0x030D00F0 // Python 3.13+
// signal that this module supports running without an active GIL
{Py_mod_gil, Py_MOD_GIL_NOT_USED},
#endif
{0, NULL}
};

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static PyModuleDef_Slot emb_module_slots[] ={
{Py_mod_multiple_interpreters, Py_MOD_PER_INTERPRETER_GIL_SUPPORTED},
{Py_mod_gil, Py_MOD_GIL_NOT_USED},
{0, NULL}
};
static PyModuleDef_Slot emb_module_slots[] ={
#ifdef Py_mod_multiple_interpreters
// signal that this module can be imported in isolated subinterpreters
{Py_mod_multiple_interpreters, Py_MOD_PER_INTERPRETER_GIL_SUPPORTED},
#endif
#ifdef Py_mod_gil
// signal that this module supports running without an active GIL
{Py_mod_gil, Py_MOD_GIL_NOT_USED},
#endif
{0, NULL}
};

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Can this PR omit these slots entirely?

IMO, they should be introduced later, after you compile your first module, along with a longer discussion about isolated state & thread safety.

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Agree better to keep simple. @neonene perhaps remove the gil and interpreter slots from where we've added them in this PR unless they were already present?

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Removed, but not all. I can complete.

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Other places to update:

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@AA-TurnerAA-Turner enabled auto-merge (squash) May 26, 2025 21:39
@AA-TurnerAA-Turner merged commit 96905bd into python:mainMay 26, 2025
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Thanks @neonene for the PR, and @AA-Turner for merging it 🌮🎉.. I'm working now to backport this PR to: 3.13, 3.14.
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GH-134753 is a backport of this pull request to the 3.14 branch.

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GH-134754 is a backport of this pull request to the 3.13 branch.

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You can also define a new exception that is unique to your module.
For this, you can declare a static global object variable at the beginning
of the file::
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This is not correct for multi-phase initialization, without preventing the exec function from other module instances from overriding this pointer.

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@encukou I added but then reverted (6e5b1c5) module state for this error type -- should we un-revert that commit? Sorry for my mistake here.

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I think it's fine -- module state deserves a better explanation a bit later in the tutorial. And the ImportError being added in the next PR is a good thing to show.

The main thing I'd do differently is not backporting to 3.13 -- that's like pushing directly to production. 3.14 is out in a few months; that sounds like a good amount of time for this all to spend in prerelease.

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