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Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the python.gram file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same.

Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules.
With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry.


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Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the `python.gram` file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same. Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules. With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry.
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@lysnikolaou, does this look correct to you?
Rendered docs: notation section, full grammar

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I'll have a look at this tomorrow if that's okay.

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Looks great in general! Left a few not-so-significant comments inline

Comment on lines 132 to 136
* ``"a"..."z"``: Two literal characters separated by three dots mean a choice
of any single character in the given (inclusive) range of ASCII characters.
* ``<...>``: A phrase between angular brackets gives an informal description
of the matched symbol (for example, ``<any ASCII character except "\">``),
or an abbreviation that is defined in nearby text (for example, ``<Lu>``).
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Should we be mentioning somewhere that these are not part of the actual Python grammar, but part of the notation to make it easier to describe specific constructs? Maybe as part of the first paragraph that says that this is a mixture of EBNF and PEG?

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I moved them to the end, and (re-)added notes that they're only used in the lexer definitions.

The definition to the right of the colon uses the following syntax elements:

* ``name``: A name refers to another rule.
Where possible, it is a link to the rule's definition.
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What possibilities exist, other than referencing another rule?

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Rules that aren't defined by formal grammar in the docs, for example strings in https://docs.python.org/3/reference/compound_stmts.html#literal-patterns
I consider these to be issues that #127833 should eventually fix, but until then I'd keep the weasel word in.

Also: tokens are currently unlinked, and many don't have a (lexical) grammar rule so they should eventually link to prose.

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Thanks for the reviews!
I'll merge; any fixes can go in follow-up PRs.

@encukouencukou added the needs backport to 3.14 bugs and security fixes label Jun 9, 2025
@encukouencukou merged commit 28d91d0 into python:mainJun 9, 2025
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Thanks @encukou for the PR 🌮🎉.. I'm working now to backport this PR to: 3.14.
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miss-islington pushed a commit to miss-islington/cpython that referenced this pull request Jun 9, 2025
) Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the `python.gram` file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same. Link the Full Grammar docs here; keep only a few extras. Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules, except for whitespace handling. With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry. (cherry picked from commit 28d91d0) Co-authored-by: Petr Viktorin <encukou@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Blaise Pabon <blaise@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Adam Turner <9087854+AA-Turner@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Lysandros Nikolaou <lisandrosnik@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Colin Marquardt <cmarqu42@gmail.com>
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GH-135301 is a backport of this pull request to the 3.14 branch.

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encukou added a commit that referenced this pull request Jun 9, 2025
…H-135301) Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the `python.gram` file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same. Link the Full Grammar docs here; keep only a few extras. Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules, except for whitespace handling. With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry. (cherry picked from commit 28d91d0) Co-authored-by: Petr Viktorin <encukou@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Blaise Pabon <blaise@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Adam Turner <9087854+AA-Turner@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Lysandros Nikolaou <lisandrosnik@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Colin Marquardt <cmarqu42@gmail.com>
lkollar pushed a commit to lkollar/cpython that referenced this pull request Jun 19, 2025
) Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the `python.gram` file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same. Link the Full Grammar docs here; keep only a few extras. Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules, except for whitespace handling. With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry. Co-authored-by: Blaise Pabon <blaise@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Adam Turner <9087854+AA-Turner@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Lysandros Nikolaou <lisandrosnik@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Colin Marquardt <cmarqu42@gmail.com>
Pranjal095 pushed a commit to Pranjal095/cpython that referenced this pull request Jul 12, 2025
) Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the `python.gram` file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same. Link the Full Grammar docs here; keep only a few extras. Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules, except for whitespace handling. With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry. Co-authored-by: Blaise Pabon <blaise@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Adam Turner <9087854+AA-Turner@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Lysandros Nikolaou <lisandrosnik@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Colin Marquardt <cmarqu42@gmail.com>
taegyunkim pushed a commit to taegyunkim/cpython that referenced this pull request Aug 4, 2025
) Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the `python.gram` file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same. Link the Full Grammar docs here; keep only a few extras. Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules, except for whitespace handling. With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry. Co-authored-by: Blaise Pabon <blaise@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Adam Turner <9087854+AA-Turner@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Lysandros Nikolaou <lisandrosnik@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Colin Marquardt <cmarqu42@gmail.com>
Agent-Hellboy pushed a commit to Agent-Hellboy/cpython that referenced this pull request Aug 19, 2025
) Prepare the docs for using the notation used in the `python.gram` file. If we want to sync the two, the meta-syntax should be the same. Link the Full Grammar docs here; keep only a few extras. Also, remove the distinction between lexical and syntactic rules, except for whitespace handling. With f- and t-strings, the line between the two is blurry. Co-authored-by: Blaise Pabon <blaise@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Adam Turner <9087854+AA-Turner@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Lysandros Nikolaou <lisandrosnik@gmail.com> Co-authored-by: Colin Marquardt <cmarqu42@gmail.com>
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