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encukou commented Nov 17, 2025

cc @jaraco / @pfmoore: what are your thoughts on removing /EXPORT from setuptools/distutils on Python 3.15+?


#if defined(_WIN32) || defined(__CYGWIN__)
#if defined(Py_ENABLE_SHARED)
#if!defined(Py_BUILD_CORE) ||defined(Py_ENABLE_SHARED)
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I'm not 100% sure about this... don't we need it for our own exports?

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Only for Py_ENABLE_SHARED -- see #99888 that added the #else.

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Ah, I see we do these checks again everywhere else we use the macros. No problem them.

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TBH, I have no view. My knowledge of C is very out of date, so I wouldn't trust anything I might say anyway...

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da-woods commented Nov 18, 2025

The /EXPORT from setuptools has definitely caused Cython an amount of pain before (although some of that was self-inflicted....). It'd be nice not to have to define PyInit_ just to to make the name exist. Although I suspect we can't really avoid it in a realistic timeline.

(Edit: admittedly we also aren't the people that it's designed to help either)

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Here's a version that removes some redundant defines (setting things to defaults).

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LGTM. This change mostly moves code around, and just add __declspec(dllexport) on Windows.


#definePyMODINIT_FUNC _PyINIT_FUNC_DECLSPEC PyObject*
#definePyMODEXPORT_FUNC _PyINIT_FUNC_DECLSPEC PyModuleDef_Slot*
#ifndefPyMODINIT_FUNC
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Supporting an already defined PyMODINIT_FUNC/PyMODEXPORT_FUNC is a new feature. Is it really worth it? I'm not against it, just curious.

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It's an escape hatch: if there's an unexpected problem with this PR, this can allow people to hotfix it without patching or waiting for a new release.

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#if defined(Py_BUILD_CORE)
#define_PyINIT_EXPORTED_SYMBOL Py_EXPORTED_SYMBOL
#else
#define_PyINIT_EXPORTED_SYMBOL __declspec(dllexport)
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I think a better option instead is to define Py_EXPORTED_SYMBOL here and then use that.

Also I feel like an escape hatch like Py_EMBED_MODULE where it basically uses Py_LOCAL_SYMBOL instead could be an option as well for when one does not want the module init function exported due to intending to use PyImport_AppendInitTab within the exe that they directly build the module into.

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I don't want to change the meaning of Py_EXPORTED_SYMBOL.

For the inittab, you can avoid PyMODINIT_FUNC/PyMODEXPORT_FUNC, and just use a normal declaration.

@encukouencukou merged commit 8565ddd into python:mainJan 7, 2026
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