use the right python "make -C Doc/ serve"

[matrixise]

BPO	36329
Nosy	@berkerpeksag, @matrixise, @JulienPalard, @hugovk
PRs	bpo-36329: Declare the version of Python to use for Tools/scripts/serve.py #12385 bpo-36329: Remove 'make -C Doc serve' in favour of 'make -C Doc htmlview' #32354

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[matrixise]

When serving the documentation with make -C Doc/ serve, we can not specify the path of the python binary.

My use case, I wanted to debug the wsgiref.simple_server method, used by Tools/scripts/serve.py. It's just impossible because we use the default python3 binary from the system or from the virtualenv (pyenv. etc...)

[JulienPalard]

New changeset 09a9f17 by Julien Palard (Stéphane Wirtel) in branch 'master':
bpo-36329: Declare the version of Python to use for Tools/scripts/serve.py (bpo-12385)
09a9f17

[berkerpeksag]

Personally, I'd prefer removing the 'serve' target completely. make -C Doc htmlview should already cover most of its use cases. There is no deprecation period needed and there is already a replacement (and IMO better) for it.

[matrixise]

Personally, I'd prefer removing the 'serve' target completely. make -C
Doc htmlview should already cover most of its use cases. There is no
deprecation period needed and there is already a replacement (and IMO
better) for it.

Hi Berker,

When I have read your message, I was surprised because this target
already exists since 2010. It's true we can run the makefile with

my current workflow is

make -C Doc/ venv && make -C Doc/ html serve and open my browser at
http://localhost:8000

but with your suggestion, I think it's better for us and also for the
contributors, just make -C Doc/ venv htmlview. This target will open the
browser with the result of the html build.

So, I have discussed with @julien Palard and he told me that he did not
use the 'serve' target and he discovered the target via my issue.

But there will be an other issue, in the devguide, there is also a
'serve' target in the Makefile with a copy of tools/serve.py.

But there is no htmlview target.

For the moment, we have a common solution for the two project if we want
to show the result to the user, make serve.

We could:

• remove 'make serve' from CPython and Devguide
• remove tools/serve.py from CPython and Devguide
• add htmlview to the DevGuide
• update the documentation

+1 for removing the serve.py script and use htmlview.

[berkerpeksag]

Yeah, we can add htmlview to devguide. I’ve even added it to Django after I
discovered it in CPython :)

--Berker

[hugovk]

I've made PRs for this:

• CPython Docs: bpo-36329: Remove 'make -C Doc serve' in favour of 'make -C Doc htmlview' #32354
• Devguide: bpo-36329: Replace 'make serve' with 'make htmlview' devguide#826

Also set this bpo for Python 3.11.